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Updated Feb 27, 2002: I colored the table in blue for each feature on the Fort Worth bird (note that I clearly heard the call twice, at close range):
Added October 8, 2001: Identifying AMGP and PAGP:-
Table 4 from Tundra Plovers; I've included only features that are different between AMGP and PAGP, and also excluded those for breeding/juvenile plumages; notes in italics are expansions from text on pages 72 and 73, where identification is discussed, and the two features marked with * are those emphasised in the identification text:
Feature  American G.P. Pacific G.P.
 Build slender body (short neck, large head) somewhat plump body, slender neck (smaller head)
 Bill Relatively small. Backwards projection reaches to rear end of eye Relatively long. Backwards projection reaches well behind the eye
 Bare tibia = half/whole bill length (shorter than bill) = or > bill length
 Wing tip Pointed (1 primary). projects well past tail Less pointed (2 primaries). projects past tail
* Primary projection (vs tertials) Long, (4) 5 (6) primaries visible Short, (2) 3 (4) primaries visible
*Tip of longest tertial To inner fourth of tail  To outer third of tail, or beyond 
 Toe projection beyond tail in flight None, or very little Prominent, most of toes visible
 Alarm call TUli  tjuitt

- Given the "blue" score above, is it reasonable to call it a fulva, call it a dominica, or state that it is unidentifiable?

Here is a quote from David James, a respected Ornithologist from Queensland, Australia, who authored the HANZAB account for Pacific Golden Plover. I asked him about "long-winged PAGPs", and my bird in particular:-
".... I then looked at the photos on your web site. My quick initial impression is that the tertials are not fully grown and hence the gap between them and the tail is a bit longer than expected for fulva. The primary extension beyond the tail does not seem particularly unusual for fulva to me; I don't actually think that primary extension beyond the tail is particularly important, and it is only now that I realise, the whole point is to determine if fulva really can have primaries extending well beyond the tail tip. Sure they can. The bird on your web page would attract a bit of cynicism if someone claimed is as a dominica here. (But please don't misquote me as saying it is fulva - I haven't given it enough attention)."
- I have highlighted in bold the important conclusions we can draw from his remarks. Namely, this bird's structure (especially it's longish wings) is perfectly normal for some populations of PAGP (e.g. those wintering in Australia - and perhaps breeding mostly in east-central Siberia), despite it being unlike the vast majority of PAGPs seen along the western seaboard on North America (which are a different breeding population). It may well be that other, similarly-structured PAGPs (from Siberian breeding grounds) occur in the western flyway, but are identified as AMGPs mostly because of their long wings.
At any rate, I feel that the balance is in favor of this bird being a long-winged PAGP rather than a AMGP that breaks all the other rules for AMGP/PAGP identication.
Also, I feel this is a catalyst to examine migrant LGPs more carefully, and to check on known breeding/wintering populations that the above criteria continue to hold up as the sample sizes increase.

Here are some new images of the Fort Worth LGP:
Note the black subterminal mark to the fresh feathers tends to look like an inverted crown, due to the black curling up the edges towards the tip, laterally; on checking a number of photos, this pattern for the black seems more regular in PAGP than AMGP - where the inverted black "hat" lacks the curls up the edges. Note also the largest new feather (just right of center) has a dull pale patch basally from the black "crown", such that the crown is completely separated from the inner black mark; I have found this on two PAGPs, but not (yet) on any image of AMGP - can anyone lead me to such a AMGP image?